for Truth Be Told2/17/2006 c9 chitoryu12
Keep writing Lawrence. You, Admiral, and RCS are my three favorite authors on here. Go Republicans! Go Bush!
Go AMERICA!
Keep writing Lawrence. You, Admiral, and RCS are my three favorite authors on here. Go Republicans! Go Bush!
Go AMERICA!
4/24/2005 c26 
1Steven Hildreth Jr
Hear hear! It's good to see an American who tells Europe, in a more polite fashion, to go fuck themselves. We're the United States of America, not the European United Nations' American bitch. :D
1Steven Hildreth JrHear hear! It's good to see an American who tells Europe, in a more polite fashion, to go fuck themselves. We're the United States of America, not the European United Nations' American bitch. :D
1/28/2005 c1 Rowana and Shtarfish
S.T.Lawrence:
"No, you do not. If we can be mocked for our views, surely the same treatment can be done to you. This doublespeak from the left never ceases to amaze me. "
It's only doublespeak because you are including me with the general lefties. I have never mocked you or any other Republican for their views. Argued against them, but not mocked them.
"Oh bullshit. Everything you see going on in the Middle East can almost single-handedly be pointed to the way England and France and Italy. The Chinese have a major impact on world affairs, etc. Your point has zero validity. "
Allright, fair enough. That was a point of convenience. Although I wouldn't dump all the blame on European countries.
"The essay says "I dont care what Europe thinks"-Asians don't concern themselves too much in American politics. "
Yet in your chapter, you continuously mentioned Asians along with Europeans.
"Yes but nowhere near the level the United States deals with. Nobody in the world deals with it like we do. I wonder why so many people want to get into the US... "
Perhaps because your country is so much larger...has so much more money.
"LOL...RCS you see this? Not once did she mention freedom, security, liberty, or basically any ideals that the USA was founded out. No, she points out material objects and money-like I said, jealousy and contempt and hatred against the American people and their capitalist lifestyle. "
Wait, wait, freedom, security, and liberty. Right, who was it who gave me the quote about blood needing to be spilled for the sake of these things? Well, freedom, security, and liberty can be found in moderation in any democratic country. What is specifically unique to YOUR country, is the money, and the authority.
"Wrong. What alot of countries do affects us. Again, your point has no validity. "
Every single descision which the US makes, internally and externally, affects the rest of the world and public opinion. The US is seen as a starting block, one country leads, the others have to take sides on any issue. If England, though, had some kind of minor controversy, no one beyond France and Italy is really going to take a lot of notice. I was just trying to say that your desicions affect the rest of the world on a MUCH larger scale.
"Exactly. What happens internally especially should not concern Europeans, but for the most part don't tell us how we should vote or what we should think about our foreign policy. You're right, we are the superpower-we got that way for a reason, so we know what we're doing. "
This seems to be a case of the pot calling the kettle black. If I don't have the right to tell you what to do, surely you don't have the right to tell me what to do? Therefore if I want to offer my opinion, I have every right to be taken seriously.
And don't forget. Many other countrys have held the position of superpower before yours. No empire lasts forever, and everything dies in the end. America will not last forever, just as the British Empire didn't.
RCS:
"This is false. Europe's decisions have effected world events through most of the nineteenth century and the first half of the twentieth. They carved up national boundaries in Africa without paying any heed to traditional tribal territories. Ancient enemies were often placed in the same country just because they happened to fall within the lines that European diplomats drew on a map. The same thing with the Middle East. See Chapter 2 of this very essay for a good account of Europe's hand in creating Iraq in the early 20th century."
Fair enough, as I have said above. The point that I was trying to make was that it is your country's decisions which hold the most weight nowadays.
-Shtarfish and Rowana
S.T.Lawrence:
"No, you do not. If we can be mocked for our views, surely the same treatment can be done to you. This doublespeak from the left never ceases to amaze me. "
It's only doublespeak because you are including me with the general lefties. I have never mocked you or any other Republican for their views. Argued against them, but not mocked them.
"Oh bullshit. Everything you see going on in the Middle East can almost single-handedly be pointed to the way England and France and Italy. The Chinese have a major impact on world affairs, etc. Your point has zero validity. "
Allright, fair enough. That was a point of convenience. Although I wouldn't dump all the blame on European countries.
"The essay says "I dont care what Europe thinks"-Asians don't concern themselves too much in American politics. "
Yet in your chapter, you continuously mentioned Asians along with Europeans.
"Yes but nowhere near the level the United States deals with. Nobody in the world deals with it like we do. I wonder why so many people want to get into the US... "
Perhaps because your country is so much larger...has so much more money.
"LOL...RCS you see this? Not once did she mention freedom, security, liberty, or basically any ideals that the USA was founded out. No, she points out material objects and money-like I said, jealousy and contempt and hatred against the American people and their capitalist lifestyle. "
Wait, wait, freedom, security, and liberty. Right, who was it who gave me the quote about blood needing to be spilled for the sake of these things? Well, freedom, security, and liberty can be found in moderation in any democratic country. What is specifically unique to YOUR country, is the money, and the authority.
"Wrong. What alot of countries do affects us. Again, your point has no validity. "
Every single descision which the US makes, internally and externally, affects the rest of the world and public opinion. The US is seen as a starting block, one country leads, the others have to take sides on any issue. If England, though, had some kind of minor controversy, no one beyond France and Italy is really going to take a lot of notice. I was just trying to say that your desicions affect the rest of the world on a MUCH larger scale.
"Exactly. What happens internally especially should not concern Europeans, but for the most part don't tell us how we should vote or what we should think about our foreign policy. You're right, we are the superpower-we got that way for a reason, so we know what we're doing. "
This seems to be a case of the pot calling the kettle black. If I don't have the right to tell you what to do, surely you don't have the right to tell me what to do? Therefore if I want to offer my opinion, I have every right to be taken seriously.
And don't forget. Many other countrys have held the position of superpower before yours. No empire lasts forever, and everything dies in the end. America will not last forever, just as the British Empire didn't.
RCS:
"This is false. Europe's decisions have effected world events through most of the nineteenth century and the first half of the twentieth. They carved up national boundaries in Africa without paying any heed to traditional tribal territories. Ancient enemies were often placed in the same country just because they happened to fall within the lines that European diplomats drew on a map. The same thing with the Middle East. See Chapter 2 of this very essay for a good account of Europe's hand in creating Iraq in the early 20th century."
Fair enough, as I have said above. The point that I was trying to make was that it is your country's decisions which hold the most weight nowadays.
-Shtarfish and Rowana
1/16/2005 c1 S.T. Lawrence
"Although, you do have to admit, we do have a perfectly valid right to give our points of view, and not have them mocked."
No, you do not. If we can be mocked for our views, surely the same treatment can be done to you. This doublespeak from the left never ceases to amaze me.
"And yes, everyone's country's have done horrible things in the past. however, those things usually didn't affect everyone else on the face of the planet, as your country's descisions do."
Oh bullshit. Everything you see going on in the Middle East can almost single-handedly be pointed to the way England and France and Italy. The Chinese have a major impact on world affairs, etc. Your point has zero validity.
"Can't they glean the fairly large fact that you don't care a jot about their opinions by your fairly large derogatary attitude?"
Why should I?
"But what about the people in Asia, and the much less politically and historically aware common masses?"
The essay says "I dont care what Europe thinks"-Asians don't concern themselves too much in American politics.
"Oh, i assure you, it happens enough that the conservatives are raging with anger at their trying to enter our 'noble country'."
Yes but nowhere near the level the United States deals with. Nobody in the world deals with it like we do. I wonder why so many people want to get into the US...
"Of course we understand why people want to live in your country, there's food, running water, flushing toilets, central heating, air conditioning, and money. Lotsa money."
LOL...RCS you see this? Not once did she mention freedom, security, liberty, or basically any ideals that the USA was founded out. No, she points out material objects and money-like I said, jealousy and contempt and hatred against the American people and their capitalist lifestyle.
"What you do does affect the rest of us, what we do doesn't really affect you"
Wrong. What alot of countries do affects us. Again, your point has no validity.
"Charming. Our vote doesn't count, therefore we shouldn't even have an opinion? Therefore we shouldn't put said opinions forwards? Therefore we shouldn't even discuss your country because we'll be ignored anyway?"
Exactly. What happens internally especially should not concern Europeans, but for the most part don't tell us how we should vote or what we should think about our foreign policy. You're right, we are the superpower-we got that way for a reason, so we know what we're doing.
-S
"Although, you do have to admit, we do have a perfectly valid right to give our points of view, and not have them mocked."
No, you do not. If we can be mocked for our views, surely the same treatment can be done to you. This doublespeak from the left never ceases to amaze me.
"And yes, everyone's country's have done horrible things in the past. however, those things usually didn't affect everyone else on the face of the planet, as your country's descisions do."
Oh bullshit. Everything you see going on in the Middle East can almost single-handedly be pointed to the way England and France and Italy. The Chinese have a major impact on world affairs, etc. Your point has zero validity.
"Can't they glean the fairly large fact that you don't care a jot about their opinions by your fairly large derogatary attitude?"
Why should I?
"But what about the people in Asia, and the much less politically and historically aware common masses?"
The essay says "I dont care what Europe thinks"-Asians don't concern themselves too much in American politics.
"Oh, i assure you, it happens enough that the conservatives are raging with anger at their trying to enter our 'noble country'."
Yes but nowhere near the level the United States deals with. Nobody in the world deals with it like we do. I wonder why so many people want to get into the US...
"Of course we understand why people want to live in your country, there's food, running water, flushing toilets, central heating, air conditioning, and money. Lotsa money."
LOL...RCS you see this? Not once did she mention freedom, security, liberty, or basically any ideals that the USA was founded out. No, she points out material objects and money-like I said, jealousy and contempt and hatred against the American people and their capitalist lifestyle.
"What you do does affect the rest of us, what we do doesn't really affect you"
Wrong. What alot of countries do affects us. Again, your point has no validity.
"Charming. Our vote doesn't count, therefore we shouldn't even have an opinion? Therefore we shouldn't put said opinions forwards? Therefore we shouldn't even discuss your country because we'll be ignored anyway?"
Exactly. What happens internally especially should not concern Europeans, but for the most part don't tell us how we should vote or what we should think about our foreign policy. You're right, we are the superpower-we got that way for a reason, so we know what we're doing.
-S
1/15/2005 c30 RCS
"Ah, all socialists? I think that I see now. Although, you do have to admit, we do have a perfectly valid right to give our points of view, and not have them mocked."
If said points of view warrant mocking...
"And yes, everyone's country's have done horrible things in the past. however, those things usually didn't affect everyone else on the face of the planet, as your country's descisions do."
This is false. Europe's decisions have effected world events through most of the nineteenth century and the first half of the twentieth. They carved up national boundaries in Africa without paying any heed to traditional tribal territories. Ancient enemies were often placed in the same country just because they happened to fall within the lines that European diplomats drew on a map. The same thing with the Middle East. See Chapter 2 of this very essay for a good account of Europe's hand in creating Iraq in the early 20th century.
"Ah, all socialists? I think that I see now. Although, you do have to admit, we do have a perfectly valid right to give our points of view, and not have them mocked."
If said points of view warrant mocking...
"And yes, everyone's country's have done horrible things in the past. however, those things usually didn't affect everyone else on the face of the planet, as your country's descisions do."
This is false. Europe's decisions have effected world events through most of the nineteenth century and the first half of the twentieth. They carved up national boundaries in Africa without paying any heed to traditional tribal territories. Ancient enemies were often placed in the same country just because they happened to fall within the lines that European diplomats drew on a map. The same thing with the Middle East. See Chapter 2 of this very essay for a good account of Europe's hand in creating Iraq in the early 20th century.
1/15/2005 c26 Rowana and Shtarfish
S.T.Lawrence:
*sigh*. Your no doubt lovely essay is thirty chapters long, so I picked an interesting chapter and decided to review it. It could take me a while to work through the whole thing.
So. To try and pick the chapter apart:
"The first thing I would tell the reviewer is “Good!” I don’t care if a European, an Asian, African, South American, or any other North American that isn’t from the United States cares about American politics. I write my essays for two reasons: 1) I enjoy writing. Along with fencing, which I am still learning, writing is my favorite hobby and I’m damn good at it. 2) I care to inform the population of the USA who read this section of Fictionpress as to the truth of what surrounds them. I do this because I believe more people should be involved in politics, and if I spark a nerve (whether you agree with me or not), good! I hope it makes you go out and research and hunt down the validity of my argument and others. I hope it gets to you to get more involved, both those on the left and those on the right. That’s why I write. I want a liberal to provide a slam-dunk argument with good, solid information and a good, solid point."
Fair enough. I certainly agree with you on the point that it's far more enjoyable to argue with someone who knows what they're talking about.
"I, personally, believe I live in the greatest country on the planet. "
I refuse to argue this with you in two different places. See other debate.
"What I find humorous is the responses I would get from the people of Europe (and a few from Asia). Things like “Do you know all the stuff your country did in the past?” or “You’re a narrow-minded redneck!” or “You’re just overly-patriotic!” And of course the occasional European will attempt to give others and me a history lesson into all the evil the United States has committed in our 228-year history, then call me things like “nationalistic” and “jingoistic” and tell me my thoughts are equal to Adolf Hitler’s (that one gets me laughing every time)."
Ah, all socialists? I think that I see now. Although, you do have to admit, we do have a perfectly valid right to give our points of view, and not have them mocked. Although telling you that your thoughts are equal to Adolf Hitlers...that's maybe going a little too far.
And yes, everyone's country's have done horrible things in the past. however, those things usually didn't affect everyone else on the face of the planet, as your country's descisions do.
And you find it funny that we care so much? Well...I'm coming to that in a moment.
"My favorite thing about Europeans is their total astonishment when an American (or several Americans) blows them off. I know I did it, and I know many others do it. And this is “astonishing.” They say something like “You know, the rest of the world doesn’t respect you anymore.” Who gives a crap? "
I seem to have joined the masses. Ah well. Some people are really astonished when you blow them off? Can't they glean the fairly large fact that you don't care a jot about their opinions by your fairly large derogatary attitude?
"So why, then, does a European/Canadian/Asian think we must listen to them? Maybe it is a historical thing. Remember, before 1776, the United States of America (as it is now) was being carved up between the Spanish, French, and British. Thirteen colonies were in British hands, Canada was spilt up with the French and British, Florida was in the hands of the British and primarily the Spanish, and west of the Mississippi River was split between the French and Spanish. So one could venture that these countries still have a maternal feel for the USA. Something like “Well, we pretty much had a hand in forming your country, so we should tell you what to do, you’re not old enough to figure it out yet.” It’s entirely plausible."
In my experience, this isn't it. Remember, nobody here today was actually alive then. Nobody whom I know has ever expressed any maternal feelings whatsoever towards the USA. No, there's a much more simple reason, which I will hopefully come to.
" Or maybe it’s something I brought up before: jealousy. Since the end of World War II, the United States has been the most powerful country on Earth, and for the duration of the Cold War, had the spotlight of the planet, alongside the now defunct Soviet Union. This could obviously piss off the continent of Europe, having the spotlight of history for thousands of years, and now having it stolen by the USA—a country they helped create! And so of course they will strike out at America as much as possible—hoping that one day they too could return to being the country everybody wants to be. And the one everyone wants to immigrate to."
This is perhaps some of the reason on the part of the European governments. But what about the people in Asia, and the much less politically and historically aware common masses?
"Oh, whatever could I talk about? Well, it’s simple really: the last time I checked, the United States of America (not Britain, Spain, France, Germany, etc) had a problem with illegal immigrants. Now I could be wrong, but I normally don’t see stories about European coastal forces intercepting tankers with people hiding in filth, hoping to get in."
Oh, i assure you, it happens enough that the conservatives are raging with anger at their trying to enter our 'noble country'.
"No, that’s reserved for the United States of America—that terrible country that liberal Europeans can’t seem to understand why anyone would want to live in."
This is where you're wrong. Of course we understand why people want to live in your country, there's food, running water, flushing toilets, central heating, air conditioning, and money. Lotsa money. Please, do not insult our intelligence.
"And it’s very hard to try and prove this observation wrong—sure, maybe my reasons are off, but I am right about the concern of Europe in American politics. Just look at this section a few months ago: Europeans writing essays about American politics, and what they think we should do. Yet you very rarely, if at all, found the opposite. There is no American author writing about British politics. No American wrote about the French government and their laws. There is no essay about Russian politics (though there should be, what with Vladmir Putin knocking off his political opponents) written by a citizen of the US. There are essays, however, about American politics written by (shocker!) Americans. And that’s the way it should be. "
America is, whether the rest of the world likes it or not, the superpower. What you do does affect the rest of us, what we do doesn't really affect you. People are interested in what affects them, hence, we're interested in the US. That's why. Benign self interest, really.
"I don’t care what a European thinks about a particular issue in the United States or what you think we should do about it: you don’t concern me because your vote doesn’t matter. In essence, your thoughts about American politics mean absolutely nothing. I don’t care what you think about what the United States decided to do or what law we decided to pass—you don’t live here. So for every European, Canadian, Asian, African, and any one else who isn’t an American citizen: I don’t care what you think."
Charming. Our vote doesn't count, therefore we shouldn't even have an opinion? Therefore we shouldn't put said opinions forwards? Therefore we shouldn't even discuss your country because we'll be ignored anyway? I hate to say it, and sound like another whiny European, but really, you do sound a bit like a dictator. Since I realise that you really don't care, I'll stick to American foreign policy in my debates, and not talk about internal issues. Will that do?
-Rowana and Shtarfish
S.T.Lawrence:
*sigh*. Your no doubt lovely essay is thirty chapters long, so I picked an interesting chapter and decided to review it. It could take me a while to work through the whole thing.
So. To try and pick the chapter apart:
"The first thing I would tell the reviewer is “Good!” I don’t care if a European, an Asian, African, South American, or any other North American that isn’t from the United States cares about American politics. I write my essays for two reasons: 1) I enjoy writing. Along with fencing, which I am still learning, writing is my favorite hobby and I’m damn good at it. 2) I care to inform the population of the USA who read this section of Fictionpress as to the truth of what surrounds them. I do this because I believe more people should be involved in politics, and if I spark a nerve (whether you agree with me or not), good! I hope it makes you go out and research and hunt down the validity of my argument and others. I hope it gets to you to get more involved, both those on the left and those on the right. That’s why I write. I want a liberal to provide a slam-dunk argument with good, solid information and a good, solid point."
Fair enough. I certainly agree with you on the point that it's far more enjoyable to argue with someone who knows what they're talking about.
"I, personally, believe I live in the greatest country on the planet. "
I refuse to argue this with you in two different places. See other debate.
"What I find humorous is the responses I would get from the people of Europe (and a few from Asia). Things like “Do you know all the stuff your country did in the past?” or “You’re a narrow-minded redneck!” or “You’re just overly-patriotic!” And of course the occasional European will attempt to give others and me a history lesson into all the evil the United States has committed in our 228-year history, then call me things like “nationalistic” and “jingoistic” and tell me my thoughts are equal to Adolf Hitler’s (that one gets me laughing every time)."
Ah, all socialists? I think that I see now. Although, you do have to admit, we do have a perfectly valid right to give our points of view, and not have them mocked. Although telling you that your thoughts are equal to Adolf Hitlers...that's maybe going a little too far.
And yes, everyone's country's have done horrible things in the past. however, those things usually didn't affect everyone else on the face of the planet, as your country's descisions do.
And you find it funny that we care so much? Well...I'm coming to that in a moment.
"My favorite thing about Europeans is their total astonishment when an American (or several Americans) blows them off. I know I did it, and I know many others do it. And this is “astonishing.” They say something like “You know, the rest of the world doesn’t respect you anymore.” Who gives a crap? "
I seem to have joined the masses. Ah well. Some people are really astonished when you blow them off? Can't they glean the fairly large fact that you don't care a jot about their opinions by your fairly large derogatary attitude?
"So why, then, does a European/Canadian/Asian think we must listen to them? Maybe it is a historical thing. Remember, before 1776, the United States of America (as it is now) was being carved up between the Spanish, French, and British. Thirteen colonies were in British hands, Canada was spilt up with the French and British, Florida was in the hands of the British and primarily the Spanish, and west of the Mississippi River was split between the French and Spanish. So one could venture that these countries still have a maternal feel for the USA. Something like “Well, we pretty much had a hand in forming your country, so we should tell you what to do, you’re not old enough to figure it out yet.” It’s entirely plausible."
In my experience, this isn't it. Remember, nobody here today was actually alive then. Nobody whom I know has ever expressed any maternal feelings whatsoever towards the USA. No, there's a much more simple reason, which I will hopefully come to.
" Or maybe it’s something I brought up before: jealousy. Since the end of World War II, the United States has been the most powerful country on Earth, and for the duration of the Cold War, had the spotlight of the planet, alongside the now defunct Soviet Union. This could obviously piss off the continent of Europe, having the spotlight of history for thousands of years, and now having it stolen by the USA—a country they helped create! And so of course they will strike out at America as much as possible—hoping that one day they too could return to being the country everybody wants to be. And the one everyone wants to immigrate to."
This is perhaps some of the reason on the part of the European governments. But what about the people in Asia, and the much less politically and historically aware common masses?
"Oh, whatever could I talk about? Well, it’s simple really: the last time I checked, the United States of America (not Britain, Spain, France, Germany, etc) had a problem with illegal immigrants. Now I could be wrong, but I normally don’t see stories about European coastal forces intercepting tankers with people hiding in filth, hoping to get in."
Oh, i assure you, it happens enough that the conservatives are raging with anger at their trying to enter our 'noble country'.
"No, that’s reserved for the United States of America—that terrible country that liberal Europeans can’t seem to understand why anyone would want to live in."
This is where you're wrong. Of course we understand why people want to live in your country, there's food, running water, flushing toilets, central heating, air conditioning, and money. Lotsa money. Please, do not insult our intelligence.
"And it’s very hard to try and prove this observation wrong—sure, maybe my reasons are off, but I am right about the concern of Europe in American politics. Just look at this section a few months ago: Europeans writing essays about American politics, and what they think we should do. Yet you very rarely, if at all, found the opposite. There is no American author writing about British politics. No American wrote about the French government and their laws. There is no essay about Russian politics (though there should be, what with Vladmir Putin knocking off his political opponents) written by a citizen of the US. There are essays, however, about American politics written by (shocker!) Americans. And that’s the way it should be. "
America is, whether the rest of the world likes it or not, the superpower. What you do does affect the rest of us, what we do doesn't really affect you. People are interested in what affects them, hence, we're interested in the US. That's why. Benign self interest, really.
"I don’t care what a European thinks about a particular issue in the United States or what you think we should do about it: you don’t concern me because your vote doesn’t matter. In essence, your thoughts about American politics mean absolutely nothing. I don’t care what you think about what the United States decided to do or what law we decided to pass—you don’t live here. So for every European, Canadian, Asian, African, and any one else who isn’t an American citizen: I don’t care what you think."
Charming. Our vote doesn't count, therefore we shouldn't even have an opinion? Therefore we shouldn't put said opinions forwards? Therefore we shouldn't even discuss your country because we'll be ignored anyway? I hate to say it, and sound like another whiny European, but really, you do sound a bit like a dictator. Since I realise that you really don't care, I'll stick to American foreign policy in my debates, and not talk about internal issues. Will that do?
-Rowana and Shtarfish
1/13/2005 c2 2conservative121
very good essay. I'm debating a liberal via email for two days now. let me tell this is fun. He's an anti war nut, a kook of kook if you will. He almost quotes that michael moore movie at times. it's real pathetic.
2conservative121very good essay. I'm debating a liberal via email for two days now. let me tell this is fun. He's an anti war nut, a kook of kook if you will. He almost quotes that michael moore movie at times. it's real pathetic.
1/12/2005 c1 conservative121
very good essay. I'm new to this website but it appears to me that there was a good little debate between liberals and conservatives here. Give me two weeks and i can revive this debate. i will have these liberals shitting themselves in anger.
i'm adding you to my fav authors list.i will post my first essay in a couple of days.
very good essay. I'm new to this website but it appears to me that there was a good little debate between liberals and conservatives here. Give me two weeks and i can revive this debate. i will have these liberals shitting themselves in anger.
i'm adding you to my fav authors list.i will post my first essay in a couple of days.
10/24/2004 c10 1ezra504
"seasonal" instead of Christmas music at year-end parties, make sure decorations around the office are winter."
Someone should tell them that "winter wonderland", "sleighride" and "White Christmas" get old after a while. But wait, have to remove that last one, it holds the "Word-We-Must-Not-Speak-Of".
Last year (Christmas season '03) a teacher displayed a Menorah, a Cresent (Islamic holy symbol), and a Christmas tree in her classroom. One mother (I'm pretty sure she was atheist), wanted the teacher take the tree out, because it offended her. The teacher was forced to remove the tree, but was allowed to keep the Menorah and Cresent.
To the people who are obsessively screaming "separation of Church and State" usually go for separation of Christianity and State. After that, they target Jewish people, but never Muslims, because it doesnt make them PC.
Smoking? They want it banned. But they also think all drugs should be legal. To them, freedom of choice means using a bong, getting married to the same sex, and killing your unborn children, not smoking.
Bottom line - They can do things that are against other people's morals and offend them (and God help you if you object to it), but you can't do things that offend them (i.e. smoke, voice opinions that are against theirs, etc.)
1ezra504"seasonal" instead of Christmas music at year-end parties, make sure decorations around the office are winter."
Someone should tell them that "winter wonderland", "sleighride" and "White Christmas" get old after a while. But wait, have to remove that last one, it holds the "Word-We-Must-Not-Speak-Of".
Last year (Christmas season '03) a teacher displayed a Menorah, a Cresent (Islamic holy symbol), and a Christmas tree in her classroom. One mother (I'm pretty sure she was atheist), wanted the teacher take the tree out, because it offended her. The teacher was forced to remove the tree, but was allowed to keep the Menorah and Cresent.
To the people who are obsessively screaming "separation of Church and State" usually go for separation of Christianity and State. After that, they target Jewish people, but never Muslims, because it doesnt make them PC.
Smoking? They want it banned. But they also think all drugs should be legal. To them, freedom of choice means using a bong, getting married to the same sex, and killing your unborn children, not smoking.
Bottom line - They can do things that are against other people's morals and offend them (and God help you if you object to it), but you can't do things that offend them (i.e. smoke, voice opinions that are against theirs, etc.)
10/11/2004 c17 4John Stein PhD
"You just got played."
Well, I wouldve gone with the South park line "You just got F'd in the A!"
or, the one this guy probably knows and loves; the line: "You got served!"
Good job at kicking his ass.
4John Stein PhD"You just got played."
Well, I wouldve gone with the South park line "You just got F'd in the A!"
or, the one this guy probably knows and loves; the line: "You got served!"
Good job at kicking his ass.
8/31/2004 c30 14biminator
excleent essay collection. well-written and concise. good job. update soon.
14biminatorexcleent essay collection. well-written and concise. good job. update soon.
8/30/2004 c23 NeveahSnow
Well written but one sided... I'm still voting Kerry :)
Well written but one sided... I'm still voting Kerry :)
4/13/2004 c30 bulbaquil
Oh yes, the liberals... you always go after Bush before reading the facts...
Oh yes, the liberals... you always go after Bush before reading the facts...
4/9/2004 c30 2RCS
The Left just gets more shrill with each passing day. It's getting exhausting, I tell you. But maybe that's their plan. Inundate us with endless tirades of their stupid, mindless assertions and we'd just get sick of the whole thing out of sheer boredom. But we have to continue to fight back against these loony tunes, which is what you're doing quite well, Steve.
2RCSThe Left just gets more shrill with each passing day. It's getting exhausting, I tell you. But maybe that's their plan. Inundate us with endless tirades of their stupid, mindless assertions and we'd just get sick of the whole thing out of sheer boredom. But we have to continue to fight back against these loony tunes, which is what you're doing quite well, Steve.