for 13375p34k in the Ubergeek Community2/15/2007 c1 l337 1 7r411
Well... It's 2007 (Almost 4 years after the writing of your paper) and l337 is definatly still going strong. I like that fact that you were able to make a formal paper on l337 and hope that you are satisfied with it. Thanks for it.
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Well... It's 2007 (Almost 4 years after the writing of your paper) and l337 is definatly still going strong. I like that fact that you were able to make a formal paper on l337 and hope that you are satisfied with it. Thanks for it.
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11/16/2006 c1 jingshe
Well, I'm not and have never been a 1337-er. I'm clueless about computer technical stuff. But I've been a gamer for the past few years and incidentally met many 1337 speakers.
One thing I don't get is how 1337 can be used to exclude outsiders. It seems to me that anyone with a decent grasp of english can easily recognize the letter patterns and read all 1337 with only slightly more difficulty than normal writing. I've always been able to read 1337 text(including an entire translation of a lengthy set of rules from normal text to 1337 which someone in my gaming community was free enough to do) though if you ask me to type it I'd probably be a grand failure xD.
I guess in gaming, noob, or 'nub' as I and people who've come into contact with me have shortened it to, has become THE term to describe incompetent people. Other than that, 1337speak hasn't been very widely used in general casual conversation.
IMO, the point of 1337 is just for fun, like why some people are tempted to spray paint strange symbols onto their cars, why people decorate cakes and food which are about to be eaten anyway, and the like. While it serves no functional purpose, it might make them feel unique(?) or maybe to decorate the plain old boring text. In short, just as an eccentricity. As in all hobbies and eccentricities, people should stop making a big deal out of it and let people do what they want. Why people keep picking on a single small thing and make huge debates out of it is beyond me.
Well, I'm not and have never been a 1337-er. I'm clueless about computer technical stuff. But I've been a gamer for the past few years and incidentally met many 1337 speakers.
One thing I don't get is how 1337 can be used to exclude outsiders. It seems to me that anyone with a decent grasp of english can easily recognize the letter patterns and read all 1337 with only slightly more difficulty than normal writing. I've always been able to read 1337 text(including an entire translation of a lengthy set of rules from normal text to 1337 which someone in my gaming community was free enough to do) though if you ask me to type it I'd probably be a grand failure xD.
I guess in gaming, noob, or 'nub' as I and people who've come into contact with me have shortened it to, has become THE term to describe incompetent people. Other than that, 1337speak hasn't been very widely used in general casual conversation.
IMO, the point of 1337 is just for fun, like why some people are tempted to spray paint strange symbols onto their cars, why people decorate cakes and food which are about to be eaten anyway, and the like. While it serves no functional purpose, it might make them feel unique(?) or maybe to decorate the plain old boring text. In short, just as an eccentricity. As in all hobbies and eccentricities, people should stop making a big deal out of it and let people do what they want. Why people keep picking on a single small thing and make huge debates out of it is beyond me.
7/7/2006 c1 
10do-i-exist
Interesting. I have to say that I have never heard of leetspeak prior to reading this essay. Anyway, this was a well written essay. Kudos.
10do-i-existInteresting. I have to say that I have never heard of leetspeak prior to reading this essay. Anyway, this was a well written essay. Kudos.
5/1/2006 c1 4FlashOfLightning
I'm aware that this is a few years old, but I found it interesting. Sue me. :P
Anyway, like I said, this is very interesting. I've been trying to avoid using l337 all this time, and it ends up that stuff like 'pwn' and 'w00t' is l337. I'm disappointed in myself.
Anyway, great essay. Heh. Got a little off track.
4FlashOfLightningI'm aware that this is a few years old, but I found it interesting. Sue me. :P
Anyway, like I said, this is very interesting. I've been trying to avoid using l337 all this time, and it ends up that stuff like 'pwn' and 'w00t' is l337. I'm disappointed in myself.
Anyway, great essay. Heh. Got a little off track.
8/17/2004 c1 83Nails For Your Crucifix
I read this essay after reading the title, and having always wanted to discover the fascination with |_33+5p34| decided that I would read it.
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First, I am EXTREMELY thankful that this was not written in 1337. I detest people that are serious about 1337 and use it in normal conversations. But this was very informative. If I ever do an essay on the subject, I'll make sure to site you as a source.
83Nails For Your CrucifixI read this essay after reading the title, and having always wanted to discover the fascination with |_33+5p34| decided that I would read it.
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First, I am EXTREMELY thankful that this was not written in 1337. I detest people that are serious about 1337 and use it in normal conversations. But this was very informative. If I ever do an essay on the subject, I'll make sure to site you as a source.
4/4/2004 c1 5Destroying Angel
The only thing with this well written and well researched essay is that anyone whom actually can code doesn't speak leet, it's generally a langauged used for people who wish they did know how to code.
Otherwise, well written and fun to read.
Cheers,
D.A.
5Destroying AngelThe only thing with this well written and well researched essay is that anyone whom actually can code doesn't speak leet, it's generally a langauged used for people who wish they did know how to code.
Otherwise, well written and fun to read.
Cheers,
D.A.
3/7/2004 c1 1Monion
Oh, nice essay! Very informative, actually. I don't read/type 1337 very well, and I tend to disdain it in light of my anal tendancies over English, lol. However, the origins of some words was quite interesting. I thought the essay was well structured, well written, and yeah, honestly, I don't think I can point a single thing wrong with it.
1MonionOh, nice essay! Very informative, actually. I don't read/type 1337 very well, and I tend to disdain it in light of my anal tendancies over English, lol. However, the origins of some words was quite interesting. I thought the essay was well structured, well written, and yeah, honestly, I don't think I can point a single thing wrong with it.
11/20/2003 c1 220Namir Swiftpaw
This was an extremely well done essay. Kudos to you!
1337 really amuses me, greatly...so when I know it's going to piss someone off, I use it. ;P
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220Namir SwiftpawThis was an extremely well done essay. Kudos to you!
1337 really amuses me, greatly...so when I know it's going to piss someone off, I use it. ;P
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11/20/2003 c1 Guin who can't be bothered to log in
Whoa. Never knew this kinda thing existed. Didn't realise I use a few leet words either. Very interesting. Didn't get the whole 'tube' and 'cube' thing. Aren't they pronounced the same? Anywhoo, a really informative essay. Might just go looking for some leeters and see what one of their convos look like. hm...
Whoa. Never knew this kinda thing existed. Didn't realise I use a few leet words either. Very interesting. Didn't get the whole 'tube' and 'cube' thing. Aren't they pronounced the same? Anywhoo, a really informative essay. Might just go looking for some leeters and see what one of their convos look like. hm...
11/20/2003 c1 27Loganberry
I'm impressed. There's little that irritates me more online than 1337speak, and I tend to avoid those who use it as much as possible - yet this essay kept me interested all the way through. I think it helped that you had interviewees (I'm snared if I'll say "informants"!) who could give different, interesting answers and back them up, which is rarer than it should be.
One thing that does come to mind, though, is that the "newb/n00b" distinction doesn't really work in British English, as "tube" is pronounced with the same sound as "cube" over here. Maybe being British is a disqualification from being 1337. (I hope so! =;) )
27LoganberryI'm impressed. There's little that irritates me more online than 1337speak, and I tend to avoid those who use it as much as possible - yet this essay kept me interested all the way through. I think it helped that you had interviewees (I'm snared if I'll say "informants"!) who could give different, interesting answers and back them up, which is rarer than it should be.
One thing that does come to mind, though, is that the "newb/n00b" distinction doesn't really work in British English, as "tube" is pronounced with the same sound as "cube" over here. Maybe being British is a disqualification from being 1337. (I hope so! =;) )
11/19/2003 c1 Sam Weva
Great article... since I'm an ancient one, I promise not to try to be cute and insert leetspeak.
(Uh oh. I do hope that using ordinary letters in the word "leetspeak" is not, in fact, blasphemous.)
I love the use of the word "informant" for those interviewed. And, yes, the sentence, "That's what you're supposed to think, ancient one."
Great article... since I'm an ancient one, I promise not to try to be cute and insert leetspeak.
(Uh oh. I do hope that using ordinary letters in the word "leetspeak" is not, in fact, blasphemous.)
I love the use of the word "informant" for those interviewed. And, yes, the sentence, "That's what you're supposed to think, ancient one."
11/19/2003 c1 15Radyn
Hey, I remember writing an essay on 1337speak!
Anyway, the day 1337speak commandeers the English language will be the day God casts down his holy wrath upon us heathen for defiling his sacred word.
In my experience, it's not REAL computer programmers who use leetspeak, it's the online gamers and hacker wannabes, who think circumventing firewalls or such is t3h h0tn355. No self-respecting programmer would be caught dead spouting off phrases like "suXorz" or "i pwned j00". The way I see it, the only acceptable time to use 1337 is to mock it. But good work regardless.
15RadynHey, I remember writing an essay on 1337speak!
Anyway, the day 1337speak commandeers the English language will be the day God casts down his holy wrath upon us heathen for defiling his sacred word.
In my experience, it's not REAL computer programmers who use leetspeak, it's the online gamers and hacker wannabes, who think circumventing firewalls or such is t3h h0tn355. No self-respecting programmer would be caught dead spouting off phrases like "suXorz" or "i pwned j00". The way I see it, the only acceptable time to use 1337 is to mock it. But good work regardless.
11/19/2003 c1 23UnknownWanderer
Very good essay. Let me tell you why.
You incorporate many releveant examples; this includes some of the actual language, the background, its use, its identity, etc... very expositional and very informative. You also move your essay by making speculation.
You also mention 1337 possibly moving into the spoken language. Well, that'd be hard to do, but I know that when I went to a technical highschool that we used to speak leet quite often. The phrase I used my often was "ph34r my 1337 n3kkid sk1llz!11." Oh yeah. Other guys would say the "haxx0r" and "suxx0rz" stuff but that's gay. Only time I ever said "1337 haxx0r" was when I'd mock people who hacked with kiddie script programs.
On another note, typical IM phrases come into my use, and even my families use. Stuff like "OMG" (in a mocking and funny way" and BRB as well.
Again, great informative essay.
23UnknownWandererVery good essay. Let me tell you why.
You incorporate many releveant examples; this includes some of the actual language, the background, its use, its identity, etc... very expositional and very informative. You also move your essay by making speculation.
You also mention 1337 possibly moving into the spoken language. Well, that'd be hard to do, but I know that when I went to a technical highschool that we used to speak leet quite often. The phrase I used my often was "ph34r my 1337 n3kkid sk1llz!11." Oh yeah. Other guys would say the "haxx0r" and "suxx0rz" stuff but that's gay. Only time I ever said "1337 haxx0r" was when I'd mock people who hacked with kiddie script programs.
On another note, typical IM phrases come into my use, and even my families use. Stuff like "OMG" (in a mocking and funny way" and BRB as well.
Again, great informative essay.
11/19/2003 c1 Xtreme 1337
He. Very well written. 1337x04 5ki1z.
He. Very well written. 1337x04 5ki1z.