for Rap and Poetry: Two Totally Unrelated Genres1/11/2012 c1 David King
You have no idea what your saying u take a small portion from one song and generalize that as all of rap music. That is logically inconsistent and this should be taken of the internet immedietly
You have no idea what your saying u take a small portion from one song and generalize that as all of rap music. That is logically inconsistent and this should be taken of the internet immedietly
10/21/2010 c1 
4that writer person
Rap *is* poetry. There is no way around it. Seeing as rap is written in verse, has rhythm, and even contains a rhyme scheme, it has to be poetry. What else is there? Prose? That would be ridiculous. Prose is how people commonly speak. It is written in paragraphs and has no specific rhythm or meter, making it different from rap.
Poetry doesn't have do please you to be poetry.
I listen to rap and write poetry. I love them both. They make sense to me. You, on the other hand, are completely incapable of properly interpreting that Snoop excerpt.
4that writer personRap *is* poetry. There is no way around it. Seeing as rap is written in verse, has rhythm, and even contains a rhyme scheme, it has to be poetry. What else is there? Prose? That would be ridiculous. Prose is how people commonly speak. It is written in paragraphs and has no specific rhythm or meter, making it different from rap.
Poetry doesn't have do please you to be poetry.
I listen to rap and write poetry. I love them both. They make sense to me. You, on the other hand, are completely incapable of properly interpreting that Snoop excerpt.
6/16/2010 c1 sundayguts
Okay I was taught to respect peoples opinions,but I think youve got some things messed up.
There both forms of selfexpression,sure some rap songs are usless and Im going to say stupid as hell.
But again theres two reasons(completely diffrent reasons)
why people listen to rap.
1)Self expression and self impowerment,isint that what poetrys about?
Example:
Eminem - Lose Yourself ;
You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo
The soul's escaping, through this hole that it's gaping
This world is mine for the taking
Make me king, as we move toward a, new world order
A normal life is boring, but superstardom's close to post mortem
It only grows harder, only grows hotter
He blows us all over these hoes is all on him
Coast to coast shows, he's know as the globetrotter
Lonely roads, God only knows
He's grown farther from home, he's no father
He goes home and barely knows his own daughter
But hold your nose cause here goes the cold water
His hoes don't want him no mo, he's cold product
They moved on to the next schmoe who flows
He nose dove and sold nada
So the soap opera is told and unfolds
I suppose it's old partner', but the beat goes on
Da da dum da dum da da
Anymore questions?
2)Enjoyment.
Some people havent gotten the best out of life-yes i'll idmit some raps are stupid and CRAP but then you need something uplifting fun,I read,ive been to counseling,ive had hard times, but Ive learned it better not to sit there whining and bitching about life-hoping for someone else to come save you.
Shorter example:
Beyonce-Single Ladies;
Now put your hands up
Up in the club, just broke up
I'm doing my own little thing
He decided to dip, but now you wanna trip
Cause another brother noticed me
I'm up on him, he up on me
Don't pay him any attention
Cried my tears, for three good years
Ya can't be mad at me
Not exactly a rap but it comes pretty much from the same genre.
But I do like Poetry,I actually have Edgar Allen Poes poetry,I have some of hes short works as well,I like horro to(Stephen King-Almost all hes books).
I do respect youre opinion but you have to understand if poetry is selfexpression,why cant rap be that same relase?
If you wanna have a good time why not rap about it?
If youre upset why not rap it out?
Okay I was taught to respect peoples opinions,but I think youve got some things messed up.
There both forms of selfexpression,sure some rap songs are usless and Im going to say stupid as hell.
But again theres two reasons(completely diffrent reasons)
why people listen to rap.
1)Self expression and self impowerment,isint that what poetrys about?
Example:
Eminem - Lose Yourself ;
You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo
The soul's escaping, through this hole that it's gaping
This world is mine for the taking
Make me king, as we move toward a, new world order
A normal life is boring, but superstardom's close to post mortem
It only grows harder, only grows hotter
He blows us all over these hoes is all on him
Coast to coast shows, he's know as the globetrotter
Lonely roads, God only knows
He's grown farther from home, he's no father
He goes home and barely knows his own daughter
But hold your nose cause here goes the cold water
His hoes don't want him no mo, he's cold product
They moved on to the next schmoe who flows
He nose dove and sold nada
So the soap opera is told and unfolds
I suppose it's old partner', but the beat goes on
Da da dum da dum da da
Anymore questions?
2)Enjoyment.
Some people havent gotten the best out of life-yes i'll idmit some raps are stupid and CRAP but then you need something uplifting fun,I read,ive been to counseling,ive had hard times, but Ive learned it better not to sit there whining and bitching about life-hoping for someone else to come save you.
Shorter example:
Beyonce-Single Ladies;
Now put your hands up
Up in the club, just broke up
I'm doing my own little thing
He decided to dip, but now you wanna trip
Cause another brother noticed me
I'm up on him, he up on me
Don't pay him any attention
Cried my tears, for three good years
Ya can't be mad at me
Not exactly a rap but it comes pretty much from the same genre.
But I do like Poetry,I actually have Edgar Allen Poes poetry,I have some of hes short works as well,I like horro to(Stephen King-Almost all hes books).
I do respect youre opinion but you have to understand if poetry is selfexpression,why cant rap be that same relase?
If you wanna have a good time why not rap about it?
If youre upset why not rap it out?
2/19/2005 c1 26Marie the Black Rose
yes! finally!
someone ELSE who understands!
*hugs*
^_^d nicely expressed, lol.
26Marie the Black Roseyes! finally!
someone ELSE who understands!
*hugs*
^_^d nicely expressed, lol.
5/26/2004 c1 The Silent Knight
forgot to state the main point of my review
don't get yourself caught up in listening to mainstream rap, mainstream rap is just flat out horrible
forgot to state the main point of my review
don't get yourself caught up in listening to mainstream rap, mainstream rap is just flat out horrible
5/26/2004 c1 18Verbal Essence
ok...try expressing this
Mike Shinoda-Part Of Me (rap)
Part of me won’t go away
Everyday reminded how much I hate it
Weighted against the consequences
Can’t live without it so it’s senseless
Wanna cut it out of my soul
And just live with a gaping hole
Take control of my life
And wash out all the burnt taste
I made the problems in the first place
Hang my head low ‘cause it’s part of me
Ya hardly see right next to the heart of me
Heard of me the routine scar
New cuts cover where the old ones are
And now I’m sick of this
I can’t stand the sandpaper thoughts that grade away on my sanity
I rather not even be then the man that’s staring in the mirror through me
Freedom can be frightening if you’ve never felt it
Once it’s been dealt with you feel like you’ve been touched by something angelic
And then melted down into a pool of peace
Cease to be the animal you used to be
Remove the broken parts you know were wrong
And feel the karma when the problem’s all gone
And then you start to see
Another piece of yourself that you can’t let be
And that reason’ll last fight to free yourself
Take it to the depths of the bottom of the well
And now you know you can choose to lose the part in your heart
Where your insides bruise
You can live if you’re willing to
Put a stop to just what’s killing you
i think i've said enough
18Verbal Essenceok...try expressing this
Mike Shinoda-Part Of Me (rap)
Part of me won’t go away
Everyday reminded how much I hate it
Weighted against the consequences
Can’t live without it so it’s senseless
Wanna cut it out of my soul
And just live with a gaping hole
Take control of my life
And wash out all the burnt taste
I made the problems in the first place
Hang my head low ‘cause it’s part of me
Ya hardly see right next to the heart of me
Heard of me the routine scar
New cuts cover where the old ones are
And now I’m sick of this
I can’t stand the sandpaper thoughts that grade away on my sanity
I rather not even be then the man that’s staring in the mirror through me
Freedom can be frightening if you’ve never felt it
Once it’s been dealt with you feel like you’ve been touched by something angelic
And then melted down into a pool of peace
Cease to be the animal you used to be
Remove the broken parts you know were wrong
And feel the karma when the problem’s all gone
And then you start to see
Another piece of yourself that you can’t let be
And that reason’ll last fight to free yourself
Take it to the depths of the bottom of the well
And now you know you can choose to lose the part in your heart
Where your insides bruise
You can live if you’re willing to
Put a stop to just what’s killing you
i think i've said enough
4/12/2004 c1 Sara Bickley
This has potential as a comic/satirical piece, though it's rough around the edges. I'm afraid, though, that a lot of people are going to take it for a serious rant.
This has potential as a comic/satirical piece, though it's rough around the edges. I'm afraid, though, that a lot of people are going to take it for a serious rant.
2/20/2004 c1 2Another Rogue
Basically, I have two big problems with this essay:
1} You can't just compare two random "objects" and then draw a conclusion from this information. Also your choice is not fair. You picked a poem of one of the best poets (I'v heard) and a random rap from a not so good rapper (at least I think so).
And this brings me to my second problem:
2}Your conclusion is that rap is not poetry. Why not? Both use words and rhyme, waht is the difference? If you make such a claim as you did, you must give a definition of poetry and then prove rap does not fall within that definition. You did not do this, and I don't think you can do this because rap and poetry are very simular forms of art.
The only thing you succeeded in was telling me you don't like rap, and that you came to this conclusion using just one rap and one poem. Not very convincing.
2Another RogueBasically, I have two big problems with this essay:
1} You can't just compare two random "objects" and then draw a conclusion from this information. Also your choice is not fair. You picked a poem of one of the best poets (I'v heard) and a random rap from a not so good rapper (at least I think so).
And this brings me to my second problem:
2}Your conclusion is that rap is not poetry. Why not? Both use words and rhyme, waht is the difference? If you make such a claim as you did, you must give a definition of poetry and then prove rap does not fall within that definition. You did not do this, and I don't think you can do this because rap and poetry are very simular forms of art.
The only thing you succeeded in was telling me you don't like rap, and that you came to this conclusion using just one rap and one poem. Not very convincing.
2/19/2004 c1 rastavirgil
have you ever heard rap/read poetry? I doubt it. First, lets look at some of the swill on this site that people call poetry. There is no rhythm, theme, and there is virtually no joy from reading it. IF you don't think that rap is poetry, read tupac's book "the rose that grew from concrete." You don't know anything about rap other that you hate it and you should keep on hating it. Rap is poetry but so many other art forms claim to be what they aren't. Many of the new forms of rock i do not call music. You can't even dance to it but it is called music? what? Rap is art. Oh, and please do not say that Snoop is odd and then compare it to poe.
have you ever heard rap/read poetry? I doubt it. First, lets look at some of the swill on this site that people call poetry. There is no rhythm, theme, and there is virtually no joy from reading it. IF you don't think that rap is poetry, read tupac's book "the rose that grew from concrete." You don't know anything about rap other that you hate it and you should keep on hating it. Rap is poetry but so many other art forms claim to be what they aren't. Many of the new forms of rock i do not call music. You can't even dance to it but it is called music? what? Rap is art. Oh, and please do not say that Snoop is odd and then compare it to poe.
2/17/2004 c1 doode
...Epressing oneself through thought or expression. that is the definition of poetry. Even though some rap is extremely...strange, it is still poetry. It is still and expression of feeling.
...Epressing oneself through thought or expression. that is the definition of poetry. Even though some rap is extremely...strange, it is still poetry. It is still and expression of feeling.
2/17/2004 c1 11Queen of the Harpies
I agree with g21lto. Some rap out there is definitly poetry and some of it is..well, it's crap. Nice rant though. Very angry and passionate.
11Queen of the HarpiesI agree with g21lto. Some rap out there is definitly poetry and some of it is..well, it's crap. Nice rant though. Very angry and passionate.
2/17/2004 c1 30g21lto
I think rap and poetry are both art forms in their own right. I've heard some very irritating rap about Doggz, CREAM, yo momma, and the like, but I've also heard very good rap with meaning behind it that I would call true art/music. Just the same as some poetry is sublime, yet some poetry is so horribly, awfully...OK, I can't come up with enough descriptors for it, but some of the poetry out there is really crappy. Every art form has its masters, and its artists who copy the masters but aren't quite as good, and its artists who downright suck. There's some very deep rap out there, just the same as there's rap about Doggz and yo momma.
30g21ltoI think rap and poetry are both art forms in their own right. I've heard some very irritating rap about Doggz, CREAM, yo momma, and the like, but I've also heard very good rap with meaning behind it that I would call true art/music. Just the same as some poetry is sublime, yet some poetry is so horribly, awfully...OK, I can't come up with enough descriptors for it, but some of the poetry out there is really crappy. Every art form has its masters, and its artists who copy the masters but aren't quite as good, and its artists who downright suck. There's some very deep rap out there, just the same as there's rap about Doggz and yo momma.