for A Random Compilation of Random Mary Sue Rants5/3/2014 c1 Guest
Oh my god. When I was eleven I found out what a Mary Sue was. Oddly enough, I was the only one who wasn't a suethor out of my friend circle. And I was the only one who spent hours adding flaws and critiquing a singular character because I had way too much time on my hands.
Oh my god. When I was eleven I found out what a Mary Sue was. Oddly enough, I was the only one who wasn't a suethor out of my friend circle. And I was the only one who spent hours adding flaws and critiquing a singular character because I had way too much time on my hands.
12/28/2011 c3 
10scribhneoir literatka
wow...I really like this essay! It's different than the other Mary-Sue bashing ones because it doesn't burn down the Suethors (innocent, yet ignorant, people who just need a nudge or two in the right direction) with their Sues/Stus. And I loved your little muse rant there. I absolutely *loathe* it when the A/N on a story is longer than the actual chapter, is completely random beyond belief (don't get me wrong, randomness is great but really, there's a limit)...I tend to find those in Maximum Ride fics, a series I once loved but I now look upon in distaste. These are the Fang loving fangirls who think 'insanity' stems from too many Mountian Dews, Doritos, and/or hours spent alone staring at a computer screen...great job!
10scribhneoir literatkawow...I really like this essay! It's different than the other Mary-Sue bashing ones because it doesn't burn down the Suethors (innocent, yet ignorant, people who just need a nudge or two in the right direction) with their Sues/Stus. And I loved your little muse rant there. I absolutely *loathe* it when the A/N on a story is longer than the actual chapter, is completely random beyond belief (don't get me wrong, randomness is great but really, there's a limit)...I tend to find those in Maximum Ride fics, a series I once loved but I now look upon in distaste. These are the Fang loving fangirls who think 'insanity' stems from too many Mountian Dews, Doritos, and/or hours spent alone staring at a computer screen...great job!
9/21/2007 c4 1soojinyeh
PLEASE review me, you sure know what you're talking about and you would be really helpful to me.
1soojinyehPLEASE review me, you sure know what you're talking about and you would be really helpful to me.
5/9/2007 c4 4cat-and-mouse
Oh, and I forgot to mention this; I'm sorry, but what's the AMSA? You never talked much about them, and I can't find them on google...
4cat-and-mouseOh, and I forgot to mention this; I'm sorry, but what's the AMSA? You never talked much about them, and I can't find them on google...
5/9/2007 c1 cat-and-mouse
Wow, I like your rants. And you showed us HOW to review mary Sues, which is great, since most reviews I've found (on other stories, I don't have courage to put mine up just yet)just say "She's a Sue," and then just go and say "She _" and that's all. I mean, that was IT? (I found a One Piece Sue were the review only said "She's a Sue *flames fic to a crisp and walks away*")
And another reviewer said eye colors can change...while tha tmay not be true as for going, say, blue to brown to pink or something, MY eyes actually take on a slight color tinit (Gray when sleepy, green when angry) but we all get the idea.
Thatnks for the rants, I quite enjoyed them. They're saved onto my computer. Heheheh...
Wow, I like your rants. And you showed us HOW to review mary Sues, which is great, since most reviews I've found (on other stories, I don't have courage to put mine up just yet)just say "She's a Sue," and then just go and say "She _" and that's all. I mean, that was IT? (I found a One Piece Sue were the review only said "She's a Sue *flames fic to a crisp and walks away*")
And another reviewer said eye colors can change...while tha tmay not be true as for going, say, blue to brown to pink or something, MY eyes actually take on a slight color tinit (Gray when sleepy, green when angry) but we all get the idea.
Thatnks for the rants, I quite enjoyed them. They're saved onto my computer. Heheheh...
4/30/2007 c1 2izziexxx
It's funny cause it's true.
I myself was a suether when I was what about 13/14 what's when I wrote my one and only sue.
Rose
She was practically perfect looking back on it. She was a muggleborn friend of hermione, soul twin of harry and lover of draco(though my beta helped me with those bits).
When I posted the first chapter I got so many positive reviews that I continued the story for years finally giving up when ~I was 15 because of my impending a-levels.
I said I was going to go back to that story.
In retropect I am not!
but knowing full well what I was, I try to leave possitive reviews.
I hope that all who experience this phase will be patient with others
Tmade me laugh!
2izziexxxIt's funny cause it's true.
I myself was a suether when I was what about 13/14 what's when I wrote my one and only sue.
Rose
She was practically perfect looking back on it. She was a muggleborn friend of hermione, soul twin of harry and lover of draco(though my beta helped me with those bits).
When I posted the first chapter I got so many positive reviews that I continued the story for years finally giving up when ~I was 15 because of my impending a-levels.
I said I was going to go back to that story.
In retropect I am not!
but knowing full well what I was, I try to leave possitive reviews.
I hope that all who experience this phase will be patient with others
Tmade me laugh!
3/22/2007 c4 Serom Kim
Not sure if you'd ever read this, since this hasn't been updated for over a year, but I'll give my review anyway. Uhh ... let me see here.
As for your self-insert sue, well, I know that some Mary Sues can be of this kind, but there is another way to look at it. Would it be considered a self-insert if the character is based on the author, but not exactly the author herself? What if the character is a self-insert who shares the author's personality (right down to the flaws)? As long as the character is realistic like the author, behaves as if she would normally, and the canon characters act normally, is it that bad?
Four your tomboy sue as well, I'm a bit iffy on that. Writing about tomboyish girls is what I'm good at, but the characteristics that you describe are probably too extreme. Tomboys don't all have to be ultra-feminist man-haters. And I think the point of having a tomboy character is to have someone who doesn't really want to fall in love.
It's hard to tell people how to keep from writing Sues. If they're beginners, they'll find a way to screw it up. Most people just grow out of it, I think. A lot of my characters started out super fantastic, then just above average, then to normal.
Not sure if you'd ever read this, since this hasn't been updated for over a year, but I'll give my review anyway. Uhh ... let me see here.
As for your self-insert sue, well, I know that some Mary Sues can be of this kind, but there is another way to look at it. Would it be considered a self-insert if the character is based on the author, but not exactly the author herself? What if the character is a self-insert who shares the author's personality (right down to the flaws)? As long as the character is realistic like the author, behaves as if she would normally, and the canon characters act normally, is it that bad?
Four your tomboy sue as well, I'm a bit iffy on that. Writing about tomboyish girls is what I'm good at, but the characteristics that you describe are probably too extreme. Tomboys don't all have to be ultra-feminist man-haters. And I think the point of having a tomboy character is to have someone who doesn't really want to fall in love.
It's hard to tell people how to keep from writing Sues. If they're beginners, they'll find a way to screw it up. Most people just grow out of it, I think. A lot of my characters started out super fantastic, then just above average, then to normal.
2/9/2007 c2 12Adrienne Jones
Hey,
I love your rants so far. I actually have only one complaint so far (which is odd because I usually have twenty for other people) and it is personal rather than grammatical. When you say "Eragon...what shit..." you must of course either be refering to the horrendous movie, or the other Suefics for this wonderful book. If you are actually putting down this magnificent book, then I am afraid that I shall have to leave many nasty reviews. Just kidding! Actually, seriously, I have friends on this site. They don't really have stories posted (most of them), but they are quite accomplished at writing flames. They practice on me because I enjoy reading them so much.
Anyway, your rant is very amusing but lay off of Eragon. It's cool.
Thank you for your time,
AJ
12Adrienne JonesHey,
I love your rants so far. I actually have only one complaint so far (which is odd because I usually have twenty for other people) and it is personal rather than grammatical. When you say "Eragon...what shit..." you must of course either be refering to the horrendous movie, or the other Suefics for this wonderful book. If you are actually putting down this magnificent book, then I am afraid that I shall have to leave many nasty reviews. Just kidding! Actually, seriously, I have friends on this site. They don't really have stories posted (most of them), but they are quite accomplished at writing flames. They practice on me because I enjoy reading them so much.
Anyway, your rant is very amusing but lay off of Eragon. It's cool.
Thank you for your time,
AJ
4/17/2006 c4 23iknowthethirdthingaboutpoetry
For some reason I have this on my favorite list, so I finally took the time to read it and decided it's too annoying and does not deserve a spot in my list.
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A Mary Sue is actually just a self-insert, period. You can have a seemingly-perfect character or an annoying character, but that doesn't instantly make her a Mary Sue. There's also a difference between Mary Sue fics and cliched fics.
23iknowthethirdthingaboutpoetryFor some reason I have this on my favorite list, so I finally took the time to read it and decided it's too annoying and does not deserve a spot in my list.
- favorites
A Mary Sue is actually just a self-insert, period. You can have a seemingly-perfect character or an annoying character, but that doesn't instantly make her a Mary Sue. There's also a difference between Mary Sue fics and cliched fics.
11/20/2005 c1 2Millissa
You know, I hate Mary Sues too, and I wrote some too. The difference between me and a "real" suethor: I never posted my crap for the world to get sick of haha. Nice rant.
2MillissaYou know, I hate Mary Sues too, and I wrote some too. The difference between me and a "real" suethor: I never posted my crap for the world to get sick of haha. Nice rant.
10/30/2005 c4 2ghost files
this was pretty good. aside from getting off topic, you really don't need a beta reader so long as you don't stray away too far. pretty funny too...and, from what i can tell, this IS prose and you're doing a very good job of it. up date soon!
2ghost filesthis was pretty good. aside from getting off topic, you really don't need a beta reader so long as you don't stray away too far. pretty funny too...and, from what i can tell, this IS prose and you're doing a very good job of it. up date soon!
10/30/2005 c4 8Ria Moriais
I can't help it...it makes me laugh! Coz it's just so true! Okay, I dont understand the links to (is it) Beyblade? Anyhow, I tend to keep my Mary Sue stories in my head to dream about at night *lol*. Anyway...can't think of anything else to write. So yeah.
8Ria MoriaisI can't help it...it makes me laugh! Coz it's just so true! Okay, I dont understand the links to (is it) Beyblade? Anyhow, I tend to keep my Mary Sue stories in my head to dream about at night *lol*. Anyway...can't think of anything else to write. So yeah.
10/29/2005 c2 1rrmehta364
definately agree, with this. i generally put a little more sugar with the cc than you do. i guess its because i personally find it really hard to go too hard on someone. i keep imagining a little eleven year old crying after reading that. still, youve got to tell them what youve got to tell them.
1rrmehta364definately agree, with this. i generally put a little more sugar with the cc than you do. i guess its because i personally find it really hard to go too hard on someone. i keep imagining a little eleven year old crying after reading that. still, youve got to tell them what youve got to tell them.
10/29/2005 c1 rrmehta364
hm...i would disagree about what you say about it being impossible to fix a Sue. itd be mad fun to see the world around a Mary Sue change so she could no longer be an arrogant idiot and start thinking for herself while being a human being. that'd be hard simply because you would have to expect the writer to figure out the problems of the character and be deft enough to change the story right away.
hm...i would disagree about what you say about it being impossible to fix a Sue. itd be mad fun to see the world around a Mary Sue change so she could no longer be an arrogant idiot and start thinking for herself while being a human being. that'd be hard simply because you would have to expect the writer to figure out the problems of the character and be deft enough to change the story right away.
10/29/2005 c2 Stormi Skyes Weathers
"If you've noticed, none of the characters' eye colors change due to how their feeling-that's physically impossible"
I like your essay, but, my cousin has eyes that do that, making it rare but possible.
"If you've noticed, none of the characters' eye colors change due to how their feeling-that's physically impossible"
I like your essay, but, my cousin has eyes that do that, making it rare but possible.